Wednesday, March 25, 2009

Quote For The Day

"If I win that percentage of my service games during the whole year I think I can finish No. 1 in the world. If I'm breaking serve around 40 per cent of the time and getting broken 13 per cent I'm going to win pretty much every match I play."--Andy Murray

First, he better hope there's no wind at all those outdoor Slam events.


Karen said...

so his aim is to hold serve, break serve and reach No. 1 - that should work - JJ did it on the women's side I see absolutely no reason why Andy Murray cannot do it on the men's side.

Beth said...

Good luck with that Andy.

anonymous said...

Very arrogant dude. I do not like him. No way he is beating Rafa.

Karen said...

Oh yes anon, other than one Rafael Nadal who like his predecessor, you will have to pry it from his cold dead fingers - LOL

anonymous said...

amazing, even Djoker never trumpeted that line. I mean Murray only needs around 7000 points. LOL

Graf_sampras said...

maybe murray is basing this partly on his record against roger federer.

and IF so -- even if it were only in part basis - he will find out it is harder to do .

he shouldn't allow himself to be misled by his record against roger...or even that he seems to have some good game against rafa in some way ...because AHEAD of him are two great champions who jealously guard theirm positions as much as andy would want to be number one.

murray has to be given credit for stating things in a straightforward way:

simply making a "cold assessment" ..but it is also THEORETICAL.

theoretically they SHOULD WORK.

but it is putting it into practice that counts.

he should not forget that Rafael Nadal himself ALSO said similar things:

" I could be number RIGHT NOW....if only roger federer wasn't there ".

for a few years now actually -- but it was in acknowledgement that BASED On what nadal already did - he would have been number one -- but roger federer was Number one -- and for a good reason...roger put himself in position to BE number one ahead of nadal...and it took nadal 4 years to overtake roger.

and that included PUTTING IN PRACTICE what nadal could easily have said:

"if i put in myfirst serves at 65 % - second serves at 70-80 percent...make my return rate at 80 percent of every game -- volley more successfully at 35% per set, etc. etc. etc. -- i should be number one by this end of 2006"...

except that it didn't happen and rafa still HAD to improve his game to approach the "numbers" that DID allow him to become number one...

just as roger TOO had to earn it the same way...beyond and calculations.

generally though, i am liking Murray.

Graf_sampras said...

maybe this is also one of the things that ROGER Federer could use --just at the right time -- to find that inner "SNARL" in him ---

and without saying so many words -- just go out there and prove to andy murray:

"It is NOT THAT easy, kiddo......".

Iwant the "old boy" show some DIFFERENT kind of FIRE this time!! just for the heck of it!

hehe -- GO ROGER!!

Graf_sampras said...

and oh...

GO ANDY !!!!

roddick i meant!

come on old boys!! show the kids how big YOUR balls are!!


Graf_sampras said...

Karen -- wouldn't it be delicious if the person that makes sure Andy Murray CAN"T be number one -- is

ROGER ? hehehe...i mean --- the "old man" can still teach the young kids a thing or two!!! about becoming "number one".......that's for sure


rabbit said...

I don't find his statements all that offending. He is objectively evaluating where his game stands right now, and he is right that if he can keep these stats consistently against every player, he is going to end up on top. All of his statement is a hypothetical. I would be comfortable with such statements if Roger or Rafa made them also. Problem is making these hypotheticals real.

Graf_sampras said...

Blogger rabbit said...

I don't find his statements all that offending. He is objectively evaluating where his game stands right now, and he is right that if he can keep these stats consistently against every player, he is going to end up on top. All of his statement is a hypothetical. I would be comfortable with such statements if Roger or Rafa made them also. Problem is making these hypotheticals real.

Wed Mar 25, 06:48:00 PM


I agree...that is why I consider his statement nothing untoward either.

it's an "out loud" thinking based on his "tennis player" understanding of what needs to be done, from a TENNIS PLAYING point...and not necessarily making an assumption that he WILL .

rather it is more about "it SHOULD" IF he manages to do things as he "ought" to , which is of course, technically entirely correct.

but as rabbit said:

it is a matter of putting the theoretical into practical reality.

and that's where it gets into the real world.

on the other hand -- it can also be construed as being "uppity" , even by his own peers like roger who just might NEED that kind of motivation...whatever the importance of motivation is in "stopping" andy murray.

and IF andy can indeed put it into practice, of COURSE he can be number one.

no less than Nadal himself and his uncle said so.

"in reality... andy murray is more talented than rafael..." Uncle Toni Nadal

"andy is really that good..he can be number one VERY QUICKLY if he really puts everything in his game together"....Rafael Nadal...

both statements were said AFTER Nadal became number one.

Graf_sampras said...

this is also the same kind of assessment as Toni Nadal said RECENTLY:

"yes rafa is number one now ...but the BETTER tennis is still played by Roger Federer".

Craig Hickman said...

I don't find Murray's comment untoward or arrogant or anything like that.

I find it delusional.

He simply doesn't get it.

Graf_sampras said...

Craig Hickman said...

I don't find Murray's comment untoward or arrogant or anything like that.

I find it delusional.

He simply doesn't get it.

Wed Mar 25, 08:22:00 PM


heeeeheeeee!!!! probably ON TARGET on that one, Craighickman!!

Karen said...

I am in a church meeting and I am LOL at you guys. You are all hilarious

Graf_sampras said...

Novak Djokovic feels Andy Murray closing in on him
Serb’s hold on the No3 spot slipped after Andy Roddick plucked the Australian Open and Indian Wells titles from him
Barry Flatman

TENNIS is irrefutably a sport dominated by numbers. Rankings dominate everything, be it tournament entry, seedings and more to the financial point, performance-related bonuses tied into the endorsement deals signed by all the leading players. Andy Murray now has the world No 3 spot, occupied by Novak Djokovic, as his next target.

Regardless of whether Murray won or lost against Roger Federer in last night’s semi-finals at the BNP Paribas Masters in Indian Wells, he has moved a considerable step closer to the Serb.

At the beginning of the year it was Djokovic who was threatening to overtake Federer and claim the world No 2 as his own. Now, after having the Australian Open and Indian Wells titles plucked from his portfolio by Andy Roddick, he is feeling Murray breathing down his neck.

The perfect illustration to the anxiety Djokovic is feeling came as he produced what he termed “one of the worst matches I have ever played” to lose 6-3 6-2 to Roddick in Friday night’s semi-final at Indian Wells. He looked a shadow of the player who a year ago entranced the public with his exemplary athletic play.
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* Murray marches on with relentless display

* Murray feels the heat in Indian Wells

* Early bird Murray eases to victory

Djokovic is now a guarded, concerned introvert and it showed in the way he played, gifting Roddick a stream of points with 30 unforced errors. “I didn’t have any momentum,” he said.

Great analytical powers are not required to work out what has gone wrong with the Djokovic game. For financial reasons, Djokovic decided to change racket at the end of last year from his trusted Wilson to a Head. Many questioned the wisdom of the decision.

The touch Djokovic showed to initially leave Murray in his wake seems to have deserted him. He regularly complains about not finding the right rhythm.

“I did not start the year the way I wanted to. I made some major changes with the racket, which was quite risky at this time. I just have to move on.” The pained expression on the face of Djokovic’s coach, Marian Vajda, throughout the defeat by Roddick suggested that it is not going to be an easy process. The pressure exerted by Murray only adds to the anxiety.

The two men may play at the Sony Ericsson Open in Miami, which begins on Wednesday and is billed as the second stage of the 2009 Masters 1000 series that comes to a climax at London’s 02 Arena in November.

But the up-coming European clay court season will be crucial. While Murray never won more than two matches in succession on clay in 2008, Djokovic won the title in Rome and reached the semi-final stage at Monte Carlo and the French Open.

Graf_sampras said...

Karen said...

I am in a church meeting and I am LOL at you guys. You are all hilarious

Wed Mar 25, 08:58:00 PM


Karen - we were PLENTY WILDER than this ...hehehe we were BAAAAD!! hehe

- with others in Bogledance's message board...but we can't find bogledance and i miss her so much....:-(....

Graf_sampras said...

and Oddman is just pretending to be "innocent" here -- but VERY BAD in bogledance's message board .....don't deny it , Oddman...


Pamela said...

This is why even though Federer was never a favorite of mine, he's earned my respect. People - fans and players alike don't realize just how difficult it is to do what he and Rafa have done over the last 4 or 5 years. In any other time in history Rafa would have been #1, but Fed was just that dominant.

And now Rafa has stepped up to the plate after years of record breaking numbers at #2 and these young players who haven't even won a slam think that it's just a simple matter of .. "oh, if I just hold serve ..."

Yeah, we know you know how to win a match. Murray has yet to prove himself capable of going the distance in slams so ... I'm sure Rafa and Roger are not worried. (even though Roger needs to be concerned with Murray holding ownership papers on him)

oddman said...

Snort! Chortle!

Graffy! There's NO one badder than you at bogledance's... and YOU know it.


oddman said...

I have tons of respect for Federer's game myself. What he has achieved on a tennis court cannot be ignored.

Gotta admit when I read this statement of Murray's, my first reaction was 'Yeah, so?'

I don't mind Murray.. ever since he's dropped *most* of the whinging and crankypants behavior on the court. (sometimes seems like his diaper is full...:D)

As someone said, he's assessing his game and so on. Fine by me. Do think he's passed Nole on the ladder, so to speak.

Karen, giggling in church - you bad!

HoiHa said...

Can someone please - I am being serious here - explain why the press and tennis pundits are saying Murray is so fabulous? I understand he is consistent with a certain level of play - but I am just not seeing the brilliance so many others seem to be seeing. What I see is a player who I would imagine should be ranked about #5.

I agree he played a lovely game against Gasquet at Wimby last year. I did not see the US Open match with Nadal. But I have pretty well seen all his other matches. And what I see is someone who seems to win on the back of other players deciding not to kill themselves in a match or other players who are exhausted. I also do not think he beat Federer in IW - I watched the match a day later knowing the result - what I saw was a Fed who inexplicably lost, not a Murray who won (you know the difference).

I cannot imagine him being able to beat an in form Tsonga, for example, or an in form Verdasco, Nalbandian, Djokovic, etc. never mind Fed or Nadal.

What am I not seeing Murray fans?

sic said...


first of all the proof is in the rankings, it's no fluke that he's number 4 and closing in on 3 with a bullet. He's been playing and beating quality opponents for a long time (just look at his H2H with Roger, and he's won 3 of the last 4 against Rafa - although I do think that Rafa is still a level above him, not so much Roger).

So how is he doing this? Murray is one of the best returners in the game, top 3 in my opinion, and has surpassed Rafa as the best retriever in the game - he gets to everything. His serve has also improved a great deal over the past year (ignore the IW F, the wind messed with his head, see instead how he served in the SF). He can now hit first serves over 130 mph, which is a huge weapon.

And finally, and most importantly, Murray is an all court player, he has a vast array of shots, more than Rafa (who's far and a away my favorite player, btw), and so he's comfortable playing many different styles. This is directly related to his last strength, which is strategy and tactics. Murray has one of the highest tennis IQs in the game. I think that Rafa adapts better than anyone during a match, but Murray usually comes in with the strongest strategies on how to beat a certain player and has the variety in his game to effectively employ that strategy.

This last point is important, a lot of players come up with strategies to beat Nadal, but they are unable to really employ those strategies effectively because they have to play a style that they are not used to (Consider how Tommy Haas and Andy Roddick spend their matches against Rafa rushing the net). Murray on the other hand, can rush the net and be effective, or play from the baseline, etc.

He's a great, great player and he's going to be number 2 in the near future.

sic said...

I also wanted to mention that although he had a bit of a step back in the IW F, in general, Andy has become much more mature on the court. He used to look for excuses to lose, now he generally stays positive even in the face of adversity (ie, when he fell and slightly hurt himself against Federer). This really is the difference between the top 5 players and the rest of the tour, the top guys keep it together, even when things don't go their way.

HoiHa said...

Sic - thanks for your feedback on this "Murray issue", if you will. And I know the arguments about his so-called great tennis IQ etc etc but I watched that IW final - just as an example - and I saw a player who had no idea what to do with his game strategically under the windy conditions and said to myself - "this is the great tennis IQ everyone is talking about?"

I agree with you 100% on his retrieving skills BTW - I too think he is the best in the game having surpassed Rafa (I am Rafa's greatest fan)and he makes some amazing shots from very difficult places outside of the court. I also agree that his first serve is much improved and when serving well it is one of the best in the game right now. Even those bloody drop shots he used to use all the time when he got brain freeze and tired seem to have largely disappeared.

But while I am seeing a really good player, I am not seeing a great one. Just my opinion here and I might very well be proven wrong wrong wrong. I just cannot see him getting past a number of players at the grand slam level without both a lucky draw and a few of the top guys injured or otherwise in bad shape physically.

Watch him turn around and win Wimby this year - then I will be forced to eat my hat!!

HoiHa said...

I should add that I think Murray is retrieving better than Rafa because Rafa has taken the decision to be more efficient and economical in his game in order to save energy and those bum knees of his.

oddman said...

I saw the Murray-Rafa semifinal at the USO, and didn't watch him again until he beat Rafa at the exo in ?Abu Dhabi? - was it there or Doha? - anyway, I couldn't believe the difference. He was much faster, stronger, his shots had more sting, and I was duly impressed. And, the grumps did not make an appearance at all. For me, that was when I realized he was a threat to anybody.

Craig Hickman said...

To me, Murray only produces great tennis when the conditions suit him. That's why his record indoors is so good.

But he clearly believes the hype, that he has been anointed to skip over Djoke and knock Rafa off his throne. He needs to be careful about that. He's not so mentally tough that he'll be able to handle it if he doesn't win a Slam soon.

The punditocracy didn't see Murray coming when they anointed Djoke as the chosen one over the last year or so. Who's to say they're not missing another player in or around Top 10 who's got the game to beat the best but hasn't put it all together in his head yet?

I won't name names, but look at the rankings.

Lest we forget, the new ranking points make the margins between players look bigger than they really are.

oddman said...

Agree, Craig.

I thought the American press were pretty 'hype-y', but the Brits are just awful. How could AndyM not hear and believe even a bit of what they're sirening? Bleah. But he has improved since September, no doubt.

I still think Rafa wears the 'big pants' in their relationship. You can bet Rafa and Toni have their heads together looking at Murray's game and strategizing ways to beat it.

The others in the top ten are very close, imo, just need that breakthrough win here and there.

'Anyone can lose to anyone, no?' - Rafa Nadal

MMT said...


Most of the gushing about Murray comes from the British press, who are notoriously fair weather fans. They'll be all over him if he doesn't win Wimbledon, and if he does, he'll be in line for the throne of England by the US Open.

That said, ask yourself how a player with no identifiable weapon (for every one of his strokes you can name 5-10 players that have a better one in the game) has enjoyed a winning record over Federer and 2 of the last 3 against Nadal (3 of 4 if you include Abu Dhabi).

The only remaining explanation is his movement, variety and tactics. Remember, he's still only 21. Very few players his age have as many tools in their kit as he does, and he uses them judiciously. That coupled with some good results against the game's best make him a legitimate contender for slams and #1, in my opinion.

I think Murray has to tools to win slams and reach #1. He is rather stating the obvious with his stats, but winning a slam is altogether very different from becoming #1. Winning a slam requires a steeliness that to date only Federer and Nadal have shown.

I'm ALMOST at the point of calling Djokovic's AO win last year a bit of fool's gold given the continuing questions about his character, and Roddick is so far removed from a slam, he may as well have not won one.

And just for shits and giggles, read the title to the article in Craig's link, then the title to the article (by Alix Ramsay) linked to it, which is the source of his quotes, and it's comical how differently the titles compare to his actual quotes.

I have a feeling the most egregious quotes are tongue in cheek or probably qualified, because the title of the article is so far removed from what he actually said, I find it hard to take the author (Alix Ramsay) at his word.

Graf_sampras said...

and if he doesn't deliver -- the british press will have a new lamb to slaughter for his they did with Tim Henman.....

Graf_sampras said...

andy needs more YOGA. YOGA, YOGA!!

go ooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmm....