Friday, May 29, 2009

Quote For The Day

"Serena doesn't get much support here. I think it drags her down. I hear that lack of support here more than any other place. And I don't have a good reason that explains it. There's an undertone of a lot of things. Maybe it's a combination of gender; maybe they've observed something about her fighting spirit that doesn't suit their eye, but it's very clear to me that the fan reaction here drags her down."--Pam Shriver

22 comments:

Damián said...

The reason a lot of people don´t like Serena Williams: her ARROGANCE.

sG said...

This makes the third commentator this tournament to note this.

Pamela said...

Good for her to say it out loud. I believe that to be true as well. That's why I am all for her father and his fiance to get loud and cheer like rabid random fans.

If you can hear the voice of your loved ones over the boorish French crowd ... you never know what she can do.

Karen said...

Well Damian, if it is Serena's arrogance that they dont' like, why is that Nadal, who is the most humble player ever, does not get much fan support at Roland Garros either? Also, Venus is as humble as they come, and she still does not get fan support there either.

tangerine said...

Serena shouldn't take it personally. The French don't like many players, not even their own.

MMT said...

I have the feeling the french don't like it when a player seems to take themselves too seriously. But honestly, what's the difference. I don't see why Serena would care one way or the other.

Ed said...

The french don't like outward expressions of arrogance during sport. I think the same can be said for the Brits. A fighting spirit isn't the issue it is the outward defiance to fair play and sportsmanship that makes for the sour response from the crowds. Let's be honest here... sometimes the Williams sisters can be a little to 'intense' for your average fan.

Craig Hickman said...

Maybe she cares because she's human.

Not all professional athletes can block out everything around them.

I wish she could. But she can't.

Craig Hickman said...

Ed said...

...it is the outward defiance to fair play and sportsmanship that makes for the sour response from the crowds.

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Can you please cite examples of Serena's outward defiance to fair play?

While Serena is a good sport on the court, I'll concede some of her comments off the court can be considered unsportsmanlike, but I've yet to see her demonstrate anything unsporting during match play.

I'm happy to read the examples you provide.

Ed said...

Yeah Craig maybe fair play isn't the right words I was searching for. I'm thinking more along the lines of the intense glances and over the top vocalization. The same can be said of Sharapova. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for intensity in sport but cultures such as French and British, I feel, don't look upon this as 'lady like'. I have to admit that the first time I watched Venus I put down my drink and mutter 'what the hell'. She is an imposing player.

Damián said...

Karen, you´re right, I hadn´t seen it in that way... sorry.

Today has been a good example of the French crowd´s indiference towards Nadal in his match against Hewitt. What a shame! (Another example: last year´s final when the incredible shots of Nadal were received with disdain, while Federer was cheered exaggeratedly).

Anyway there´s another element in the case of the Spanish athletes being treated bad in France. I remember how they made fun of Arantxa Sánchez Vicario (a three time Roland Garros champion) and also of Sergi Bruguera (double champion).

Could it be because the Spanish has practically owned the French Open since years?

I would say more: it´s well known the pretended superiority with which French people usually see the Spaniards ("Africa Begins at the Pyrenees") and a lot of them can´t put up with the absolute superiority of Spain (a "less civilized, industrialised and populated country") in sports. Compare the mediocrity of France with Spain´s soccer, basketball, tennis, cycling, motorcycling, etc... LOL!

sG said...

They don't boo Sharapova for all her aggressive mean looks and loud shrieks. They actively support her. The Brits don't treat neither Serena or Venus that way and they shriek and give sideways looks there as with everywhere else. They aren't rude about it and applaud every good shots no matter who delivers them, no matter if the person may not be their first choice. The French crowd is just rude.

Veruca Salt said...

I can't explain the French crowd's indifference either. It's not simply racial, it's not simply gender based. It could have started with Serena's match against Justine in 2003, and it just got worse from there but who knows?

I'd like for some brave French journalist to survey the crowd to get their thoughts.

Will said...

"It could have started with Serena's match against Justine in 2003, and it just got worse from there"

Yeah, talk about "outward defiance to fair play and sportsmanship" that the French crowd supposedly despises, when in this match they cheered the player showcasing that exactly quality.

Karen said...

Veruca, you are so right. I think it all started there. I remember during that match, they booed her, they were shouting etc. It was like a mob scene. That was actually Justine's first chance to win a major. Much as I dont like Sharapova, they dont much like her at the French either. And from the match I am seeing they dont much care for Azarenka - LMAO. This morning they werent even cheering for Rezai. The commentators said that she must be French enough for them.

Karen said...

I have never seen a stat like this. We are in the second set and Azarenka has hit exactly 2 winners. 2

Pamela said...

The French are just crude, uncouth and fickle as far as fans go that attend the matches. They always have been and always will be.

That's just who they are.

They even got on Maria so bad last year that she turned around and cursed them out. lol But of course, it's Serena that is arrogant and displays unsportsmanlike behavior.

They're just rude. I can't say it enough - sometimes to their own.

oddman said...

Well, whadja expect? They're FRENCH. :P

(from a western Canadian, lol)

vw said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA91_CsYr-8&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
yeah Pamela, here it is.

vince said...

allez, up your f!n ass!! Great stuff.

lynney62 said...

Pam.....they're French. Enough said!

lynney62 said...

Pam.....don't you know that the only folks who appreciate, love and respect the French.....are "the French"! My best Brit friend knows that well!