Sunday, May 31, 2009

Roland Garros 2009 Day 8 Open Thread - SPOILERS

A ball boy waits on the sidelines of a second round match between Australia's Samantha Stosur and Belgium's Yanina Wickmayer at the Roland Garros stadium in Paris, Thursday May 28, 2009.
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SPOILER ALERT !! - This thread discusses matches currently in progress but not yet televised in many markets. I may post a delayed-play open thread later as I did yesterday.

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The second week of a Slam has been called the business week. The fourth round is the middle match for those who will go on to claim the singles championship. I've always thought the fourth round is the toughest match to win, especially for those who've never been this way before. Those who have tend to push the re-set button and view the match as a new beginning.

The top half of both draws gets down to business, and I suspect we'll see some barnburners.

No predictions.

Sunday Order Of Play

Court Philippe Chatrier 11:00

1. Men's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Fernando Gonzalez (CHI)[12] v. Victor Hanescu (ROU)[30]
2. Women's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Dinara Safina (RUS)[1] v. Aravane Rezai (FRA)
3. Men's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Rafael Nadal (ESP)[1] v. Robin Soderling (SWE)[23]
4. Women's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Maria Sharapova (RUS) v. Na Li (CHN)[25]

Court Suzanne Lenglen 11:00

1. Women's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Agnes Szavay (HUN)[29] v. Dominika Cibulkova (SVK)[20]
2. Men's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Andy Murray (GBR)[3] v. Marin Cilic (CRO)[13]
3. Women's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Victoria Azarenka (BLR)[9] v. Ana Ivanovic (SRB)[8]
[b]4. Men's Singles - 4th Rnd.
Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)[10] v. Fernando Verdasco (ESP)[8][/B]

Court 1 11:00

1. Women's Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Zi Yan (CHN)[16] v. Samantha Stosur (AUS)[4]
Jie Zheng (CHN)[16] Rennae Stubbs (AUS)[4]
2. Men's Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Rik De Voest (RSA)[14] v. Bob Bryan (USA)[2]
Ashley Fisher (AUS)[14] Mike Bryan (USA)[2]
3. Women's Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA)[10] v. Serena Williams (USA)[5]
Nadia Petrova (RUS)[10] Venus Williams (USA)[5]
4. Men's Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Jose Acasuso (ARG) v. Mahesh Bhupathi (IND)[4]
Fernando Gonzalez (CHI) Mark Knowles (BAH)[4]

Court 2 11:00

1. Women's Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) v. Kveta Peschke (CZE)[2]
Urszula Radwanska (POL) Lisa Raymond (USA)[2]
2. Men's Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
T.B.D. v. Christopher Kas (GER)
Rogier Wassen (NED)
3. Men's Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Marc Lopez (ESP) v. Michael Kohlmann (GER)
Tommy Robredo (ESP) Alexander Waske (GER)
4. Mixed Doubles
Elena Vesnina (RUS)[6] v. Nathalie Dechy (FRA)
Daniel Nestor (CAN)[6] Andy Ram (ISR)
5. Mixed Doubles
T.B.D. v. Ai Sugiyama (JPN)[5]
Andre Sa (BRA)[5]

Court 7 11:00

4. Mixed Doubles
T.B.D. v. Alisa Kleybanova (RUS)
Bruno Soares (BRA)
5. Mixed Doubles
Lisa Raymond (USA)[3] v. Anna-Lena Groenefeld (GER)
Marcin Matkowski (POL)[3] Mark Knowles (BAH)

170 comments:

pompelmo said...

Why no predictions? Here they are!

Time for the last 16. We have some high profile matchups today, namely Ivanovic vs. Azarenka and Davydenko vs. Verdasco, which are good enough to be at least quarter final games.

I am picking Ivanovic from the first one. I would like to see her defend her title against "the number one”, and how that number one deals with this confusing element and the challenge Ivanovic will bring. It was 6-4, 6-3 for Ivanovic last year and keep in mind that she is in the quest for reaching her third consecutive final here.

Being on Venus’ side of draw and Zvonareva pulling out, Maria Sharapova suddenly finds herself as the favorite for reaching the semifinal after defeating Nadia Petrova in the second round. However, she is not fully fit, her service movement has changed, and she looked shaky with that last match making 11 double faults. If she can bring the game she played against Petrova in the first set, the one who loves the game can get past the one who doesn’t care that much.

And Mr. Cilic, this is your opportunity to break through.

GONZALEZ, CIBULKOVA, CILIC, SAFINA, NADAL, IVANOVIC, SHARAPOVA, DAVYDENKO

Craig Hickman said...

pompelmo, thanks. Sometimes I haven't had time to look through everything before getting a morning open thread up.

Craig Hickman said...

Szavay looks as though she was satisfied just to get past Venus. She can't keep a ball in the court and looks completely disinterested right now.

Gonzo is doing what he does. I really wish he and Tommy Haas were switched in the draw.

Craig Hickman said...

pompelmo, you think Davydenko will outsmart Verdasco? I think Verdasco will outhit Davydenko, but I never take Davydenko lightly.

Well, at least not until a Slam semifinal anyway.

pompelmo said...

Craig Hickman said...

pompelmo, you think Davydenko will outsmart Verdasco? I think Verdasco will outhit Davydenko, but I never take Davydenko lightly.

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I always pick the smarts :) The game can go either way but I don't think Verdasco will be able use his forehand as the way he likes.

Matt said...

37 unforced errors from Szavay!? I'm only watching the stats (no broadcast here in Australia) =( But what an ugly, ugly match and a pitiful follow up to a win over Venus.

Craig Hickman said...

Matt, you know the routine. Beating Serena or Venus for most players represents a tournament victory.

Karen said...

Morning All. Just got up and saw where Domi took out Agnes. The first thought that crossed my mind was, and people said the better player won when she beat Venus. This is the main reason why this girl cannot go far. She has a really nice game, she came out and she played like she was on fire recently against Venus, serving up aces, making all her shots etc., and then she comes out against Ms. Retirement, and makes 8 winners. 8. Stupid Heifer

Karen said...

Apologies to all Dinara fans, but why does she always look as if she needs to take a shower?

dapxin said...

All the livestreams that did the womens suddenly switched to some random pointles F1 racing today.

I am now left to watch Andy Murray on this tvants link tvants://list.tvants.com/tvants/?k=db350b5a006be41555b0a7c70fa4319b.

@matt, you can bookmark here http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=40036&part=sports - has all the livestreams if you have decent broadband (unmetered!).

Is Safina on already?

Karen said...

She is on but poor Rezai looks like she is having trouble keeping the ball in court. Dinara is looking better than she actually is. She is playing with a lot of confidence, but she played just like that in Australia, and we all know what happened then.

Pamela said...

I'm just waiting for Cilic to make his move. Andy Murray has been incredibly fortunate thus far. Time to go home.

I so want Davy to take out Verdasco. I'm just tired of seeing him now. I don't dislike him, but enough of the winking at umpires and thumping his chest and thrusting all five fingers at his box. We get it already.

I think Dinara is gonna be in for a world of confusion when she faces someone who can actually hit the ball back to her. She's blasting through players with no power whatsoever.

Good job by Dominika. I like her. She's scrappy like Na Li, love her too. Ana better take out Azarenka or I'm disowning her baby fist pumps.

Karen said...

Am I the only one who just cannot stand to see Andy Murray? Man, I really dislike the fellow

dapxin said...

On the BBC radio 5 live - a commentator just reported Safina shouting Russian for "excellent" to herself...

pray! she is not horrible when as some1 said, gets someone she cant blow away....

:wink

Karen said...

@Pamela, word. She is hitting the ball incredibly hard and she is focused, but if she gets someone across the net who hits the ball just as hard, and is not overawed by the occasion then she is going to be in for a world of hurt. Rezai has been a total disappointment. She played so well to reach this stage of the tourney and she just gave up her serve for no reason a moment ago. Ridiculous. The crowd is not even bothering to get behind her. Dinara should really stop wearing those skirts, they do nothing for her.

Karen said...

You best believe if she meets Azarenka or Ivanovic in the next round, they are going to be killing that second serve of hers. Also, Ivanovic moves so much better than Dinara. Dang she lost 1 game in that whole freaking match. Have to admit that is damn impressive. She is looking even better than Rafa - LMAO

Karen said...

Just watching Serena/Venus coming out on court for their doubles match. Serena just sprayed herself must be with perfume. Hilarious

Karen said...

the stands are full for a women's doubles match. Granted the Bryan Bros just finished, but nice to see

J said...

@Karen, I can't stand Murray either but I don't know why. Why don't we like him?

dapxin said...

you dont like him because he is british :)

Karen said...

I dont think it is because he is british, as I usually love all things british. I think it is maybe his style of play more so than the individual himself. There is just something about him that I do not particulalry care for and I will be darned if I know what it is.

pompelmo said...

Soderling already better than his last match against Nadal. Nadal serving@1-2

Tennis Vagabond said...

Perhaps you don't like Murray because he is a whinger. AT least, that's why I don't like him.

Karen said...

Whinger - that must be it - LMAO. This doubles match is good. This is the only match I am able to watch right now. Cannot understand why NBC has embargoed the matches and you cannot see anything. Understand that Soderling leads Nadal 4-1 - apparently he has broken him.

Matt said...

Agreed Vagabond. I recall Murray having the bitchiest rant about him not getting a higher seeding at Wimbledon last year. Deal with it Murray! If you deserve the better seeding, PLAY that way!

Beth said...

I did not like Murray when he used to yell up to coaches in the stands during a match. Particularly when he was with Brad Gilbert. He used to yell some pretty foul things, blaming the coach for his poor performance, etc. The commentators in this match (JM) said that is one of the reasons he's not with Brad anymore - Brad wouldn't put up with it. In press conferences he takes ownership for his losses but on court I think he can come off as whining?

Karen said...

Oh my goodness, I will definitely have to watch that first set of the Nadal match. Nadal loses a set to Soderling. What the hell is going on. LenaD said yesterday in an interview that Rafa looks tired to her.

Matt said...

Soderling is playing out of his arse. He will not be able to sustain this level against Rafa.

Beth said...

I don't want to spoil anything for anyone but is anyone checking out LIVE scoring on RG website? Check out what's happening with Nadal and Soderling. Wonder why Tennis Channel is not showing some of THAT match? I wonder if they are going to do it delay? Wow, I really want to see what's happening and why the score is what it is......

Beth said...

Anyone know if it's playing streaming somewhere?

b said...

daxpin - thanks for the links page....

anyone have a link for the doubles match - I can't find it there


or at least let me know what station you're watching on TV - easier to find online that way

b said...

Beth -

This site definitely has the 2 main courts
http://www.fromsport.com/

keep clicking and you should get Nadal

here is Murray
http://www.atdhe.net/6860/watch-grand-slam-roland-garros

Beth said...

Holy crap.....what IS going on with Nadal?? He at 15-30 on his serve in his first service game, 2nd set.

Beth said...

Much thanks b!!!!

Craig Hickman said...

I've put a spoiler alert on the title of this thread, so spoil away.

oddman said...

Oh, my! Did I actually hear a roar from THAT crowd when Rafa broke Sod? Or did my ears deceive me? Nah, must have been imagining things.

Craig Hickman said...

Rafa does look tired.

kraa said...

I like Murray's game. His personality not so much...

Big Ed said...

Looks like Rafa is going to have to dig deep. It might be nice to see an underdog final though.

Beth said...

I'm watching this streaming and Nadal doesn't look tired to me Craig.

Craig Hickman said...

Beth, he just woke up.

Look at his winner/error ratio.

Helen W said...

I agree Beth, but he hasn't found his game either. He's hitting a lot of short balls and missing his forehand down the line.

Right now he's holding on by pure heart.

Beth said...

Soderling has a better win on 2nd serve % but Nadal's 1st serve pct. is 78%. He has his serve at least. Yes, Nadal has fewer winners but he also has far fewer errors as well. It's proportional.

Beth said...

Am I understanding it correctly that there is NO love lost between Soderling and Nadal?

Tennis Vagabond said...

OH MY does Nadal have guts! 2 points from losing the 2nd set, an exquisite dropshot from the baseline!

Beth said...

Rafa is not playing his best but he's making the good points when he needs to. Go Rafa with the 2nd set!

Pamela said...

The audible sigh of relief you just heard was me. :)

I can't see the match, but I will say this: You can only play above your level for so long against Rafa. Please make it easier from here on out Rafa, thanks.

Beth said...

From Roland Garros website:

"Our ''Which rule would you change?'' debate is now closed! Over 150 of you had your say, with plenty of you keen on penalising players who make too much noise during matches: John S from Spain's suggestion that a "grunt-o-meter" should be introduced is inspired! A large number of you were also keen on the women playing best-of-five and for the let to be scrapped on service."

I am with all of this. Get that grunt (or should they call it SCREAM) o-meter installed. I have long thought that women should be playing best out of 5. We are a strong sex and have PLENTY of endurance. Come on ladies!

Helen W said...

Beth I think Soderling is one of the very few players that Rafa dislikes. AFAIK, it started at Wimbledon when they had that rain-delayed (over days) match and Soderling was mocking him by imitating him on the court. Roger also has some issues with him.

Madhur said...

Soderling is playing way beyod his capabilities. To top that of Nadal isn't playing his best tennis. Soderlings forehand has been wicked today. There is a bit of hostility between the two from Wimby last year, so expect this to be an awesome match

Pamela said...

Helen, a lot of players don't like Soderling. They say he is simply not friendly in the locker room. I don't think they all want to be best friends, but a little respect and recognition when one says "hello" shouldn't be hard to handle.

Apparently it is for Soderling.

edma1022 said...

Relax, ladies. Order is restored now. Rafa won't lose to this guy. Not this guy.

Helen W said...

edma1022 thanks for the kind words, but I'm not relaxed :)

b said...

The sisters just won the 2nd set - and I still don't have a stream - just got back home... I guess I am the only one here wanting to see womens doubles more than men's or women's singles...

:o)

And yes Soderling and Nadal really dislike each other, actually seems Soderling is nasty in general.... but the Wimbledon incident was very unwise on his part.... Soon as he did it I knew Nadal was not going to lose that match...


This whole match is interesting because if anyone I expected Ferrer to give Nadal trouble..... people seem to forget he is perhaps the only player to leave Nadal on the ground, holding back tears....

b said...

Beth - Completely agree about the best-of-5 for women.... it's just so ridiculous - women are actually more suited to endurance events than men.... run triathlons, ironman, marathon, a woman held the record for the English channel crossing for 20-30 years or so etc etc etc

There's no justification.... There are plenty of ATP players who don't fare well over 5 sets and many who never make it to 5 sets b/c of their fitness.... it's their loss...


@Karen re: Safina - I think she just sweats a lot (a bit like Nadal).... She's actually a very pretty girl and in great shape.... However I agree that skirt is just not working for her.... she needs something better fitting/ a flattering outfit...

Madhur said...

@ Beth - If you are saying that as long as Nadal puts his
First serve in, he is okay, I agree with u. Nadal seems fine when his first serve falls in. He won his current service game at love as a result of puting all four of his first serves in.
Soderling vs Nadal is awesome for me because it is gritty and not players look ruthless. I hope I don't offend anyone, and that No one takes this the wrong way but Soderling almost brings out the real Nadal. Mentally and physically.
Madhur
www.discusstennis.wordpress.com
I hope Nadal wins otherwise Fed will have it damn easy

Craig Hickman said...

Soderling is playing this like a hardcourt match and he's got Rafa rattled.

Soderling's shot are flat and hard and heavy and deep and Rafa needs to make some adjustments with his own ground strokes. They're too shallow and when he tries to hit deep, he's missing.

Beth said...

Scary. Soderling has 3 break points right now on Nadal's serve. Ugggggh!

Helen W said...

Madhur I have long believed that if Federer is to have a chance to win RG, other players will have to do the heavy lifting for him. Kohlschreiber obliged by taking out Djokovic; I hope Soderling does not manage to take out Nadal. Alas, he has just got broken by Soderling.

Beth said...

Crap! Broken.

b said...

Okay - I found a stream at the tennis channel - had been avoiding it because wasn't able to see anything before - any the picture is quite good

http://www.tennis-channel.tv/tennis/

Madhur said...

Nadal has been broken in the third set. Trails 3-4. I am watching this not as a Rafa fan. If I watch it as a rafa fan I might die of chest pain.
For some reason I feel I am the only one who thinks Soderling is playing good tennis. I mean I know he is cocky and all but give the man some credit.
Totally agree with you Craig. It is quite amazing to watch Soderling just go for the winners like that.
Soderling held his serve and now leads 5-3

Beth said...

Yes, that stream is not showing the Nadal match though.

Tennisfan said...

Oh.. ahh.. Nadal just fell down. I hope he is ok..

Tennis Vagabond said...

I have never seen Nadal DICTATED to like this. Even the pace between points, I think Soderling is moving faster to serve than Nadal would like. Nadal's backhand is looking really like a weak link today!

Craig Hickman said...

Meantime, Azarenka is eating Ivanovic for lunch.

Pamela said...

Ana I never performs well when I need her to. Then again, I'm hoping this is what happens to Dinara. Steamrolling soft as butter players don't make for great preparation when you play someone that's a big hitter and has no fear.

Anyway Rafa .... sigh ... and Edma wants us to relax?

Karen said...

Well we are always talking about the men in the ATP having no gonads, well we have seen this FO that players are tired of getting beat up by the top guys. They are starting to believe that no one is invisible. Like I said, I would love Roger to win this FO, but if someone out of the ordinary comes through and wins it (you hear that Davydenko) I will be happy.

Craig Hickman said...

Rafa has just now started to hit the ball harder and draw some errors. He's digging deeper on defense as well.

pompelmo said...

I cannot watch the games for half an hour more because of this "Giro D'Italia" thing but Soderling seems to be holding strong there. He broke on the second set, broken back, lost the chances to re-break, lost the set on tie-break, but still in full control in the third set. This would spoil the day. If you are taking Rafa out, you better win the whole thing.

Anyway, even if Soderling wins this set, I will be surprised if he can finish it. On the women side, Azarenka is having an easy game against Ivanovic. How disappointing.

Beth said...

Soderling about to take the 2nd set. This is BAD.

Pamela said...

Scratch that "never even been taken to 5 sets at Roland Garros" platitude out the window huh? :(

Craig Hickman said...

Soderling is hitting the felt off the ball. Period.

Craig Hickman said...

Karen, it was Roddick yesterday and Davydenko today.

Make up your mind, lady.

J said...

craighickman said:

Soderling is playing this like a hardcourt match and he's got Rafa rattled.

Soderling's shot are flat and hard and heavy and deep and Rafa needs to make some adjustments with his own ground strokes. They're too shallow and when he tries to hit deep, he's missing.
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I would have described the first set with Federer yesterday this same way, no?

edma1022 said...

Rafa seems listless. His strength flows and starts from between the ears. Might he have been thinking of the WADA issue?

Anyways, Helen/Pam/Beth, since when did we ever count Rafa out in a match? This is, after all, 5 sets.

Helen, I agree, Fed cannot hope to win this without an asterisk if Rafa is not across the net. However, they all need to meet there. Fed was also stretched in his last 2 matches. Murray, Djoke, and Rafa needs to navigate thru theirs.

Kia said...

However this goes I will have to watch NBC's stateside coverage this afternoon. I hate that they can dictate a blackout on something I'm desperate to see live!

Karen said...

Just want someone new to win it all. Fact is really dont care who. Would like to see the WS playing better in the doubles though. They are now down a break and the other team is playing really well. Only match I can see. Is Ana about to get bagelled.

b said...

Serena and Venus are down 5-3 in last set of the doubles..... I cannot believe how poorly Serena played the net points on their service game - Venus served fine Serena defended poorly..... I'm almost afraid to watch more. Matthek was great at hitting volleys at Serena

Beth said...

For the MATCH, Nadal is at 82% first serve. That's pretty amazing. Let's hope he starts making some fast adjustments like Craig said.

Matthew said...

Whoah - I thought I'd sleep in this Sunday, because I didn't expect anything too exciting.

I never thought I'd wake up to find Nadal down 2 sets to 1 against Robin Soderling! Wow.

b said...

Wow just looked and realised Rafa will have to play a 5-setter...

Serena and Venus are still in trouble... glad Serena is serving but they are match pts down

Matthew said...

Also, the Williams sisters just saved two match points!

Beth said...

edma1022....yes, I'm worried. But not in a panic, yet. You are right. We need to have faith. :-)

Pamela said...

I'm trying Edma, but ... if you're just not mentally there, you're just not. Rafa has not looked impressive to me the entire tournament. His win over Hewitt was so routine and boring, but it's not like he was playing excellent tennis. Hewitt just has nothing to hurt him anymore at this point in his career.

Matthew said...

VSW break and will now serve for the match. That's what I expected. I imagine Nadal should present a similar fightback soon, don't you?

b said...

5-5 now... The sisters Saved 3 match points.... 2 on Serena's serve. Serena such a great clutch player.


and now they just broke back and it's 6-5 with Venus serving for the match....

This has been way too exciting...

b said...

Matthew - yes I do expect that from Nadal...

Craig Hickman said...

b I thought all 3 match points were on Serena's serve.

Pamela said...

Ana loses. Ugh. Can't depend on her to take out the ones I dislike, what good is she? lol

As for the doubles, Nadia and Bethanie are a good team. They've won a couple of titles back to back playing together recently.

Venus is serving for the match now .. up 6-5

dapxin said...

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a1f06aef32eb

Finally found that hiquality stream, showing the Murray game now but I think will swap for the nadal show laters...

Matthew said...

Oh! VSW broken back. I didn't know they did third-set tiebreaks in doubles at the FO. Well, it's better than a super tiebreak in place of a third-set, I suppose.

Craig Hickman said...

J said...

I would have described the first set with Federer yesterday this same way, no?

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I missed the first two sets of that match.

b said...

since when (outside the USO) does the double decider in a GS have a tie break???

Craig Hickman said...

Ion Tiriac is cheering for Soderling.

Pamela said...

Is he really, Craig? Ion Tiriac and his gimmicky tournament will probably regret that cheering next year.

Madhur said...

I don't know what the actual stat is but Soderling has a wickedly fast second serve. It is equally as fast as his first.
I am loving this match and you guys, Nadal might lose here though! It's quite a real possibility.

Matthew said...

Actually, the Australian Open and US Open have third-set tiebreaks in women's doubles, it seems. Wimbledon is the only one that doesn't.

Wow, VSW lose. Didn't expect that.

Pamela said...

Nadia and Bethanie win. Nice win for them. They are good.

Rafa holds, please break here!

Craig Hickman said...

That was a good doubles match.

Wasn't meant to be for the sisters.

Blessing in disguise for Serena.

b said...

Well, they couldn't do it - what a topsy-turvy match - amazing! And there goes the doubles GS... Terrible overhitting by Serena to give match point.... I didn't see the last point....

Sigh! Hope Nadal is faring better than WS.

Matthew said...

Also, it may be interesting to note that Wimbledon is the only grand slam where Men's Doubles still play five sets. They play three at the AO, FO, and USO. There and Davis Cup are the only places for doubles players to play five sets, anymore.

edma1022 said...

Rafa will break now. I can go to church finally.

(getting late for my daughter's confirmation.... *sigh*)

b said...

Matthew, so the tie break is ONLY FOR THE WOMEN --- and then people complain about the quality of women's matches.... I can't believe this - when did that start? You feel cheated...

Matthew said...

Well, Verdasco-Davydenko is starting on TennisChannel.com. I thought this was going to be the most exciting match of the day, but it'll be tough to beat Nadal-Soderling, no matter what happens in the fifth and (maybe) fifth.

Matthew said...

Sorry b, I only said Women's doubles because I was only sure about Women's doubles. It's the same in Men's doubles (I think).

Craig Hickman said...

The other HUGE factor in the Rafa match is that the slow clay doesn't shoot Rafa's balls through the court so it gives the slow running Soderling extra time to get to the ball AND set up his big-wind-up shots.

Pamela said...

Tie-break. I can't even watch score board. I have a massive headache and Rafa is fighting to stay in the match against .. SODERLING! of all people, this ... person. Ugh! :(

Come on Rafa, you can do this!

sG said...

What's the score on the Rafa-Soderling match? It's not on my usual streams or on TV. I hate scoreboard watching!

The moment I heard it was warm over there I thought it gave Soderling's game a boost, but this is dumbfounding.

Matthew said...

4th set tiebreak, Soderling takes a mini-break right out of the gate?

I know nobody cares, but the Davydenko-Verdasco is off to a good start, too. :)

dapxin said...

hahaha! Rafa is going down. and its a joy for neutrals.

go Sorderling! go go :D

dapxin said...

@sG

This sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/71303 is a great sopcast stram with scoes.

sG said...

What scoreboard do you usually watch, Pamela?

Matthew said...

He is really on the verge of defeat, here. This is unbelievable. Do you think Federer is watching the match on TV, over there in Paris?

Beth said...

Are we really going to see this happen? Is it really going to go down like this??!?!!

sG said...

I don't have the SOP program. You need that to watch it don't you? Thanks anyway.

Mad Professah said...

Soderling is TWO points away from taking out RAFA!!

dapxin said...

well, even Satan wouldnt come back now.

Welcome home Sorderling. :)

I got no bones in this tho - just hailing the underdog :D

sG said...

What is going oN?

Mad Professah said...

FIVE match points? Can Solderling do it??

I wanna watch this on NBC later....

dapxin said...

yeah sG,

sopcast is here http://www.myp2p.eu/softwareitem.php?softwareid=5&part=software

Beth said...

I've lost my breath....and my heart.

Pamela said...

Well, the end had to come sometime. I'm just irked that it was to this idiot. Chin up Rafa, there's Wimbledon to look forward to.

Helen W said...

Ugh. Rafa loses to a pill like Soderling?

IAC, we Rafa fans must now brace ourselves for the gloating and crowing of The Worshipful and all the other Nadal haters.

Mad Professah said...

It's DONE!!!

LOL, somehow I think Federer is going to figure out a way to lose and Andy Roddick will win the French :)

Matthew said...

If Federer doesn't win this year, then I would put him on immediate suicide watch. To have his biggest threat taken out ... it's just been gift-wrapped!

pompelmo said...

Amazing... I can even jinx Nadal with my predictions.

Congrats to Soderling. I am speechless.

dapxin said...

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has done it.

Here a BBC commentators take
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"many has tried, but this man Nadal for the first time, leaves this court without the trophy in his hands"

History of Roland Garros already rewritten.


I couldnt be happier :D :D

Beth said...

Pamela....I am SO with you.... Soderling of ALL people having to win this?!

Karen said...

Who knew. Who knew. In my Racquet Bracquet I actually picked someone else to win it this year. Even though my head said Nadal, my heart said something else. I am absolutely stunned by this as I did not think that Soderling would have been able to hang tough and beat him. Big hugs to all Nadal fans. Your guy just did not have it today. Like LenaD said she did not think that Nadal had it in him this year and he looked tired. People are saying that he needs to stop playing Barcelona and that Madrid interfered with his prep.

Beth said...

Please, please, either of the Andy's or even Davydenko...please step UP TO THE PLATE and take the BALL. I want to see one of these guys win......

Beth said...

I agree with everything you're saying Karen. Boy, do I need a hug right now. I am on the verge of tears. Would like to have seen Rafa at least make the semis....or, maybe not. Maybe better he lose now than later, even closer to the title. Wow, I hope he gets some rest and gets over this loss quickly. Funny, but I, too, had a sinking feeling that this would not be his year for RG. Didn't want to acknowledge it in my heart but I have been sensing it too.

Helen W said...

Meanwhile, Davydenko is up a break against Nando....

Craig Hickman said...

Rafa said he could lose at anytime to anybody.

Point proven.

Soderling literally hit him off the court. That's about the only way to beat Rafa on clay and Soderling had the arsenal to pull off a 12 on the Richter scale of an upset.

Graf_sampras said...

it's OVER , one of Roger's Guardians, UGLY OGRE SODERLING does roger another favor by Slaying CLay MOnster Nadal......

roflmao.

GO TSONGA, HAAS, RODDICK , MONFILS...

oh yeah -- murray too. lol.

Beth said...

Craig, you're right. Soderling was ON FIRE and so, so aggressive. He did not hold back, AT ALL. He deserves credit for this win. But I wish Rafa had lost to someone else. Or, better yet, not lost at all. ;-) I'm so sad.

Karen said...

AAh beth, I feel your pain and you get mucho hugs from me. I know exactly how you feel. And to Soderling - ugh

Craig Hickman said...

Soderling is absolutely BALLING in his interview right now.

Helen W said...

Agree Craig, but Rafa never did find his game. He hit way too many short balls, and missed with his forehand, on many, many shots that usually would not have caused him a problem.

Pamela said...

Come on Davydenko!!!

Mad Professah said...

As a Raja fan, I would note that he has not lost before the semis in over 5 years... 19 semifinal appearances in a row

Beth said...

Maybe we should start a new thread for Davydenko and Verdasco? This one is so full!

dapxin said...

Got no bones in this but I would wear my dancing shoes and be happy if Andy Roddick now takes his chances.

I just wish him to win something, after all the beating he's got and may Rafa find a way to lose so Rafa can console himself in the hotel room someday...

Goes to show,if you truly dare, nothing is imPossible.

Beth said...

Where's the interview Craig? Would love to see it.

dapxin said...

*Roger I meant :), Rafa's done.

Tennis Vagabond said...

Poor Rafa! Oh, he looked absolutely heartbroken.

No, this Fed fan is not happy about this. The other players seemed to be closing in on Rafa on clay this year. Could they be finding his weaknesses? Is this temporary fatigue? Or is Rafa's horifically physical game catching up with him?

No, too soon for these questions. Sorry Rafa fans! But he did have an unbelievable run here, and I'm sure he's still got a huge year ahead of him.

Helen W said...

Well, G_S, Kohlschreiber took out one major challenger, and Soderling the other, in matches neither of them was expected to come close to winning. Who is the next biggest threat? Can we get 3 for 3 here?

Beth said...

Thanks Karen....so much. :-)

Craig Hickman said...

Folks think this loss opens up the draw for Federer.

It might.

But who else left in the draw can give Federer fits?

Andy Murray.

And the pressure on Federer to win this thing just increased tenfold.

Beth said...

Craig, do you have a streaming link for post match interviews?

Pamela said...

I forgot about Jo. If he can get in a zone and use the crowd ... provided he takes out Monfils ...

I need rest. Just .. :(

b said...

I would like Monfils to win - was thinking he would make it to Final and lose to Nadal... people forget that last year when he played Roger he couldn't see - he had a torn contact in his eye and still managed to test him.... and he has been improving yearly at RG...

I didn't initially count on him because I thought his knee wouldn't hold up but he seems to be running well.

Feel so sorry that Rafa lost bc 1)Wanted him to get the GS this year 2)he lost to SODERLING - the Sod.... if I remember correctly, since the feud started he has won all their matches

Poor Nadal - I just wanted him to get it this time.... Interesting that it was Soderling and not Ferrer

So Roger's 2 biggest threats - Nadal and Djoko are GONE.....

Murray must also have his hopes up as well....

Beth said...

Does anyone think that now that Rafa is out that the other players will be even MORE eager to beat Roger? What do you think chances are for Murray, Andy R. or even Davydenko? You are right, Craig, mucho pressure on Roger to win now. It will be seen as if his main obstacle is gone. Will that give him tremendous confidence and renewed vigor (not that he needs it) or will it make it more of a pressure situation for him?

Veruca Salt said...

*sigh*

Sad day. Hopefully Rafa will bounce back and play less during the clay season next year.

Everything was bound to catch up with him eventually.

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vw said...

Am I the only one who just cannot stand to see Andy Murray? Man, I really dislike the fellow

NO! you are not. Anyone but him please......Monfils or Tsonga or Davy but not Murray.

sG said...

Terrible. To Soderling?! In the fourth round??? I'm not sure if I prefer that to Federer or Murray or Djokovic. Everyone predicted it would be some unknown, low-ranked player playing the game of his life but SODERLING??? Seriously, dude? Did you need one for the highlight reel? Every champion has a 'How could you lose to that dude there?' in their reel but couldn't you have it at one of the smaller tournaments?

Sigh. I hate to say it, but Rafa may deserve to be raked over the coals for this one. I only say 'may' because I didn't get to watch the match, nor will I ever. I reserve the right as a fan to only know a loss on paper only.

So, that just opened everything right on up in the entire tournament. Stop following, Djokovic, dear! Dear god, Dememtieva now looks like a prophet, or a jinx. Damn you, Elena!

Repercussions: no fifth for Rafa -- like Fed, you only get to tie the enigmatic Borg, the hex lives; he will no longer be the favorite for Wimbledon (a good & bad thing); he lost to f**kin' Soderling at f**kin' RG, and has to live that down!!!! This one's going to hurt and there is no way of getting around it. None. I live in a house with two FedKADS. So, yeah, it's going to be fun trying to negotiate that minefield. Usually we watch our guys play in different rooms for the sake of tempers but there isn't a house big enough for this.

Can Andy Roddick pull a Soderling? I'm not holding my breath. I like the guy, but I'm really not. Murray's chances just got golden, as did Verdasco's. I suppose I could root for him to go all the way on that side of the draw; I like the Spanish Armada. On the other side, it's Andy. For as long as he can manage it is Andy all the way.

Rafa, Rafa, Rafa, Rafa. Get some rest -- there's Wimbledon to defend now. I expect brilliant things from you since you'll have oh so much time to prepare. :hangs head: Go home and get to one hundred percent. Fish or something. Nothing you can do about this but suck it up like a big boy.

vw said...

Since Ana couldn't beat the bratty Azarenka I am hoping Vika takes out Safina. I can't stand her.

vw said...

Can Roddick beat Murray?

dapxin said...

sharapova|na Li vs. my sunday shower.
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whats to give? anyone ?

Graf_sampras said...

HelenW -- as you can see -- everyone can see:

should roger go to win this...

it repeats the same pattern over the years :

the MAIN THREATS to roger, the VERY PLAYERS that produced SUPERIOR head to heads over him -- nadal BY FAR (not a mere "close" record or parity ) or potentially can continue to build on that (novak)

are gone by the hands of players that EVENTUALLY bow to roger -- the VERY SAME players that "came with roger who are so respectful to the point of being deferential".

DAVYDENKO coming up....

he comes in in a mere 2 weeks ago back in the game -- to play well enough to take down verdasco and POSSIBLY get to the finals to do WhAT against roger? BUILD on davydenko's 0-12 record or something some more, like in TWO USO's? THIS is "tough competition?" that is -- if his FOOT holds up by finals time!

should Haas get there and lose anyway -- what is HAAS NOW in his career? he is just being happy he can even PLAY for a couple of matches withouth his sh0ulder acting up?

if he EVEN defeats Roger should they meet -- THAT should REALLy , REALLY expose the entire Roger career of majors as a monumental FRAUD -- if a repeatedly injured and absent and unfortunate player could even REACH the finals or semis against roger - win or lose.

the PRESSURE on roger is not so much to WIN the FO

but that he SHOULD WIN because the crowd has been SEVERELY diminished SIMPLy by the absence of his Superior, Nadal, PERIOD. no matter what the "potentials" of the others are.

because EACH of the remaining players represents a bag of their respective HANDICAPS in their careers:

TSONGA is STILL not that consistent and does not bear more than a FULL YEAR's consistency in comparison. same with monfils.

same with kohlschreiber...same with Haas.

due to mostly injuries.

they might as well be Beginners in comparison.

Roddick suffers a record he has not proven he can get out of against roger, same with davydenko and soderling.


Murray yet has to prove he can even make it to finals and remain fresh and focused comparing his mere one-year consistency to roger's 8 year career of experience.



so....do fedfans REALLY believe that Roger's majors were earned by way of battling through the TOUGHEST possible draws?

this is the primary reason why his "phenomenal record" to some, like myself, can not possibly be entirely convincing...

they are , shall we say:

TOO convenient?

Graf_sampras said...

10 year career actually . roger has been a veteran since 1998.

compare with murray - pro since 2005.

Craig Hickman said...

Sunday Afternoon Open Thread is up.I may close this thread a little later. It's getting too full.

I'm very happy about that, everyone. ;)

Craig Hickman said...

Rafa's interview live right now.

Graf_sampras said...

vw said...

Can Roddick beat Murray?

Sun May 31, 12:21:00 PM

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Roddick CAN beat Murray. the question is -- IF roddick does -- is HE capable of beating ROGER?
or Soderling? andy has the game but getting farther in FO is irrelevant to the MAIN CONCEPT for roddick:

it is NOT about getting to the second week.

it is about getting there and when presented with roger federer or someone that took out the Defending Champion that opens the field for everyone....

roddick shows himself as someone that is NO LONGER obedient to Roger federer or anyone but is HIS own rightful champion in the FO.

that's the entire point .

the entire point of REMOVING a defending champion that is the greatest claycourter --

is opening up the field to everyone..so that everyone ELSE BEGINS ANEW

as EQUALS rather than SOME - upon seeing an opponent, such as roger, across the net.....


PEE in their pants.

they should only pee in their pants if it was Rafael Nadal.and the one that DIDN"T and took him down deserved TAHT win, SODERLING.

but IF soderling REGRESSES to peeing in HIS pants upon seeing a "friendly face" like Roger fEderer....

SODERLING is NOTHING more than a SLAVE and an ENABLER of someone else's EASED path to glory .

Craig Hickman said...

In defense of Soderling, who I realize few people like, he beat Ferrer and Rafa BACK-TO-BACK.

His performance today wasn't exactly a fluke.

He's always had the weapons to cause any player trouble on any surface, but he tends to choke big time against the elite.

In two matches (I consider Ferrer clay court elite), he did not choke.

I have to give him major props. As much as I hate choking, any player who holds his nerve and completes the task gets applause from me no matter who they take down.

Karen said...

Nadal's press conference on ESPN News now

Karen said...

Actually no press conference, just Dareen Cahill giving his views

Tennis Vagabond said...

Find it funny that the man who didn't play today is getting so much talk. Most of it the same petty bitter obsessive stuff. Take a breath, its still just a game.

dapxin said...

bbc radio commentator on 1st set:

In typical german style, no shots on target thru out the game but they win on penalties
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made me LOL@ .....