Friday, August 21, 2009

Cincinnati Quarterfinals Open Thread

New world No. 2 and defending champion Andy Murray will open the day against lucky loser Julien Benneteau who benefited mightily from the withdrawal of exhausted Juan Martín del Potro, while new world No. 3 Rafael Nadal will play the night match against Tomas Berdych. In between, Roger Federer will take on Lleyton Hewitt and Novak Djokovic will play Gilles Simon.

Someone had to get the night match, but when two former world No. 1's and perennial rivals face off it would make more sense to put that match on last. But Rafa gets the night match and thus the shortest turnaround time should he advance all the way to the finals.

Nothing has changed.

A brief note on Andy Roddick and Sam Querrey. Confidence is like glass. It takes a lot of focused effort to shape it up the way you want it but it can chip, crack or shatter in a blink. The top-ranked American looked like he did in the first round of the US Open in 2005 when he lost in three tiebreaks to Gilles Muller in the first round, while Sam played with conviction, fire in his eyes, and utter determination. It was nice to see. But as expected, all that went out the window against Hewitt in the next round. The young American saved his best for the man who was certainly ripe for the plucking and then turned right back into a boy who doesn't give a shit about winning anything of worth in the next match.

Enjoy the quarterfinals.

29 comments:

Tennisfan said...

Someone had to get the night match, but when two former world No. 1's and perennial rivals face off it would make more sense to put that match on last. But Rafa gets the night match and thus the shortest turnaround time should he advance all the way to the finals.

xxxxxx

I don't understand?? Last week in Montreal, JMDP played 2 night matches before he faced Andy M in the final. And some are tired of hearing JMDP not being fit enough. I guess we see what we see.

If I had to pick one match out of these 4 QFs, I would definitely pick Rafa and Berdych’s, these 2 have history, are competitive in H2H.

Savannah said...

Silly wabbit. The Monogram doesn't like to play night matches.

Karen said...

Sometimes the players actually request what time of the day they would like to play. I think in this instance I will give Roger a pass as with 2 children I dont think he really wants to be away from his children at night playing tennis. Also, I understand the Brits have asked that all of Murray's matches be in the day time to allow for the British publish to be able to view them. I think that is a tad unfair to the rest of the field as the finals will undoubtedly be played in the daytime and if Andy gets there, he will have an unfair advantage as he would have become accustomed to the weather. Perhaps Rafa also asked for a night match. We dont know.
Just as how some persons love to take a scalp of a top player, i.e. the WS, so some men like to know that on their resume they can say that they beat a former No.1 and Grand Slam Champ. Sometimes it is the measure of how they view the person that they have beaten rather than how they view themselves.

Craig Hickman said...

Tennisfan, you're missing the point entirely.

Yes, we all see what we see. You're comparing apples to rocks.

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Karen, you don't know if Raja doesn't want to be away from his children at night (when they are likely asleep anyway -- they're newborns, after all) any more than you know if Rafa requested a night match.

I'm working with what is.

No matter the reasons -- imagined or real -- the schedule is what it is.

Nothing has changed.

Dapxin said...

btw,
just checked my favourite sports-stream site and the murray game is live on
http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a6f518d7dfac but you will need aat least 1Mb/s speed to watch it.

Tennisfan said...

I didn’t expect any different response from you Craig. Rafa is in no worse situation than JMDP was in just last week. While JMDP was being criticized for not being ready for the same kind of schedule, Rafa receives apathy.

Let's say Rafa won his QF, and SF, and lost in Final on Sunday, would we all be reading unfair scheduling rather than Rafa needing to build his stamina? We see what we see obviously.

edma1022 said...

Nothing has changed. I love it.

The "tyranny of many reasonable voices" crying out at the illusion of unfairness. We see what we like to see.

Rafa often leverages on those 'illusions of unfairness', the impossibility of winning while nursing a tender knee, the hardships of getting back after months of rehab.

No worries, everyone. These are professional (paid) athletes, and they're playing a 3-set match per day.

Can't be all that bad.

(Besides, it's just simply - Rafa is a bigger draw amongst youngsters than a 'daddy', and he was away for so long ... that's why he gets primetime)

Karen said...

Edma, not too sure about the whole drawing card thing because the stands have been empty for the Old Mand, the Hobbling Spaniard, the Djoker, the Saviour of American Tennis, and the Smartest Player on the ATP Tour. It is a case of we all see what we want to see. Fans of Roger will say that he is being unfairly treated seeing as how he is being forced to play in the hot sun all the time and not given a night match. As Craig said, we dont know, and this is all just pure speculation. Right now no athlete is a drawing card because nobody has the money to spend to attend tennis tournaments. That is the reality right now.

oddman said...

Interesting. I told myself yesterday that Rafa got the night matches because he's their best draw card, now that AndyR and SamQ are out of the tourney.

He's working hard, playing and competing a bit better with every match, and he's the big fan fave... Vamos, campeon.

I'm pleased he doesn't have to deal with the extreme daytime heat, humidity, and wind. Seems the wind dies down a bit in the evening there?

IAC, just great to see him back, playing, scowling, grunting, hitting that backhand, curving in that crazy forehand, throwing that fist around. And the little dance last night? Sweeeeeeet.

Vamos, Rafa! Keep it up!

Karen said...

Questions are always raised here and elsewhere about the gracelessness of Federer in press conferences etc., and usually the Fed fans will come out with instances where Roger has shown just how gracious he is. I am attaching a link to an article from someone who has press credentials and who went to a live tennis event for the first time. It makes for very interesting reading as I dont think this person is really much of a fan of Roger Federer.
http://tennisworld.typepad.com/tennisworld/2009/08/cincy-diary-final-day.html

Savannah said...

For those who think the Monogram runs right home to the twins here's something to chew on. Sorry it's from The Slob.


@ justingimelstob Federer just celebrated his win over Hewitt by breaking the pacman record in the players lounge!

Karen said...

LOL - breaking the pacman record - LMAO - that was just too hilarious.

Craig Hickman said...

Tennisfan, I didn't expect a different response from you either.

I'm still calling it like I see it. And I still contend that comparing del Potro to Rafa is comparing apples to rocks.

They don't have the same stature in the game. And apathy for Rafa has nothing to do with the point I'm making. Which you are still missing. By a mile.

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Karen, you make a good point. Times are tough right now.

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Tennisfan said...

ESPN is not showing the match live. :(

Tennisfan said...

ey don't have the same stature in the game. And apathy for Rafa has nothing to do with the point I'm making. Which you are still missing. By a mile.

xxxxx

May be a mile in ant's measurement. :P

Craig Hickman said...

A shame the US networks aren't any live tennis today.

We have thunderstorms. I was willing and able to watch live tennis today.

Blah.

Karen said...

Scheduling sucks with the tennis. The good news though is that the Bank of Canada has determined that Canada is now out of its recession and that the economy has grown. The US economy seems to be picking up and the Asian markets have recorded growth of up to 10% over this quarter and the next quarter, so the signs are there that things are improving. For now I guess we just have to enjoy what little tennis we can get, whether tape delayed or whenever they feel like showing it.

Karen said...

Program Note: US Open Preview show now on Tennis Channel

vw said...

For those who think the Monogram runs right home to the twins here's something to chew on. Sorry it's from The Slob.

Savannah LOL!!! Monogram report from Slob.
I'm at Cincy and have been all week. It has been brutally hot and humid here. I did the coin toss for the Roddick Querrey match. Got a photo and the coin as a souvenir.
I saw the Slob this morning at the practice courts pretending he knows how to play tennis. No one was paying attention to him. When Djok and Vajda came in, he had to leave.

Matt said...

It's simply not fair...... WHY IS THIS HAPPENING!?

Savannah said...

VW that is so cool!

Love that Slob had to leave when the big kids showed up

Matt said...

Who is Slob?

Karen said...

Matt, it is Justin Gimelstob. The Slob is taken from the last 4 letters of his surname, plus he does look like a slob, no matter how much they try to put him in a suit and clean him up. You know the saying, take the pig from the sty but never take the sty from the pig - that phrase epitomises the Slob.

Karen said...

Boy, Roger has had some money quotes recently. Look at this one:
If you’re not No. 1, well then you’re a former Grand Slam champion, you know, in my case and Rafa’s case and so forth,” Federer said. “So I never looked at Rafa as, for instance, No. 2 in the world, you know. I always saw him as the great champion he is. The same might happen with Murray, because (Novak) Djokovic already has a slam.”
I think the babies have really mellowed the guy and what we once thought was arrogance was just how his mind works. Amazing.

oddman said...

Q. How strange or not does it feel to you that you’re going into a No. 1 versus No. 2 matchup tomorrow and the other guy isn’t Rafa?

ROGER FEDERER: Look, I don’t even pay that close attention to the rankings, because I always said that No. 1 is sort of what I’m focused on.

Yeah, Karen? Well, this is the first part of what he said.

Karen said...

But Oddman, even if you take the whole comment in its entirety this is how his mind has always worked. If you are not No.1 then you are a former Grand Slam champion. It is like for him the only thing that matters is being No.1. To his way of thinking NO.2 is the next step to either being No. 1 or going down the rankings. I think if Roger ever gets to No. 3 or God forbid No. 5 in the rankings, he may just pack it in because he really does not like being anything less than No.1. I think that while some may think it is a sign of arrogance, I think it is a sign of the standard to which he holds himself, and that is not a bad thing.

vw said...

We call him the Slob because of his sexist comments. One of them was...well Andreev lost but he gets Maria Kirilenko as a consolation prize. Another time Chris Fowler asked him if Safin could be seeing Kuznetzova, and Slob said ..are you kidding, he's so far out of her league, implying that Kuz was ugly or gay or I don't know what. Then he was supposed to be "commentating" instead he was ogling and using air time to come on to some starlet who was at a tourny. He did other things too.

Helen W said...

vw, his greatest transgression IMHO was is execrable comments about Anna Kournikova.

vw said...

Helen, how could I forget about that? He wanted his killer brother to do bad things to her. Sick. I saw him a few times this week, just a few feet away from him and he just really turns me off.