Monday, September 14, 2009

US Open 2009 Men's Final Open Thread

Serena (L) and Venus Williams of the U.S. hold the women's doubles championship trophy after beating Cara Black of Zimbabwe and Liezel Huber of the U.S. at the U.S. Open tennis tournament in New York September 14, 2009.
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Serena and Venus Williams of the U.S. hold the women's doubles championship trophy after beating Cara Black of Zimbabwe and Liezel Huber of the U.S. at the U.S. Open tennis tournament in New York September 14, 2009.

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I had a minor emergency and couldn't get this up till now.

Can't believe Raja is serving so poorly and still managed to almost be up two sets to love. Good to see del Potro dig in.

Best of three to follow....

71 comments:

Pamela said...

Del Po! Del Po! Del Po!

Aside from my "anyone but Roger" mentality right now, I'm actually sincerely rooting for Del Po because of Del Po. He took out my favorite, blew through his draw with a minor hiccup here and there, but he's showing what most lack - belief.

He took the 2nd set. So, even if he loses, he'll have shown me something that I like, and that's fight.

Pamela said...

And then he breaks Federer? Oh please let him hold. :)

Matthew said...

It's too bad CBS cut away from that "conversation" Federer was having with the umpire. I was enjoying it!

Dapxin said...

me too was
loving that conversation.

why did he not have 1 last night.
Justice! sometimes....

Craig Hickman said...

So Raja cursed at the chair umpire. He's in quite the pissy mood. Let's see what kind of play this gets, if any.

Del Potro gagged. If he only believed, really believed, he'd be up 2 sets to 1.

Dapxin said...

and delPo lost....

Pamela said...

Don't tell me to be quiet, I don't give a shit what he said.

Well, did anyone catch the rest? I mean, Enberg seemed to think it was ok. Mary said it was cursing ... lol Funny stuff.

Christopher Crocker said...

That's a big stretch Craig. He was broken for the set, if he held at they point they would have been even at 5-5.

Federer definitely dropped an f-bomb, though I didn't hear the context.

Christopher Crocker said...

I think the most important question, not who wins or loses, is when will Del Potro (a la Nadal) graduate from the sleeve-less tops?

Dapxin said...

wow!
what shot,
to put a shot stop,
to that game.
1-1.
delicious!

Craig Hickman said...

Oh, del Potro. Federer can't see close calls.

Use the challenge system and don't fall for the okie dokie.

Christopher Crocker said...

Amazing forehands from Del Potro!!!

Dapxin said...

now,
I am enjoying this.
welcome delPotro!
get in!

Helen W said...

Wow wow wow!

I just love this guy!

Great to see him rebound after that disastrous end to the 3rd set.

Pamela said...

That's why I can't be mad at Del Po for taking out my favorite. His game is huge and if can keep from gagging on opportunities, there's no reason he can't win this match. Gotta hold serve.

For now, I'll take the set ... make it go 5.

Craig Hickman said...

That's a big stretch Craig. He was broken for the set, if he held at they point they would have been even at 5-5.

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It's not a stretch at all. Not even a small one. He was serving for a 5-3 lead and made three careless errors to drop serve. He didn't win another game in that set. To add insult to injury, he double faulted to drop the set.

He didn't believe. He gagged.

Dapxin said...

Craig,
there was something in pscyhology class about,
not asking 2nd questions.
Just act!

Potro didnt do in that set. But he is a fighter - it seems.

Even if,
He must conquer himself; tonight.

Helen W said...

I'm with you Pamela.

Do it like Rafa does -- one point at a time, and hold.

Take it to 5.

Craig Hickman said...

Here we go again.

He's not even using his big serve, up a break and serving (again) for a 5-3 lead in the fourth set.

He simply doesn't believe.

Craig Hickman said...

Two break points, two errors.

Yes, he fights. He fights hard.

But he doesn't believe.

RF fights hard AND he believes. He's played a pretty crappy match but brought out his best when facing a potentially overwhelming deficit.

The only player on the planet who really believes he can beat RF in a Slam is Rafael Nadal.

The only one.

Matthew said...

Who is this umpire? I've never seen him before, and he is not doing a very good job.

Craig Hickman said...

That's utter bullshit.

Pamela said...

Big flaming pile of feces!

I can't believe that he let that happen. How do you challenge a call that a lines person did not even call? Bull.

Glad Del Po held his composure and took it to a 5th. Unbelievable what they let Federer do. Just ... wow.

Michael said...

Weird stuff. I think Federer could challenge the call, because he stopped playing. But, Del Potro won the point and the set.

It comes to mind that of all countries, perhaps Argentina fares better against Federer than any other. Canas, Nalbandian, can Del Potro add to the list of those who have beaten Federer?

Craig Hickman said...

Let's see if del Potro proves me wrong.

Raja is there to be taken.

Beth said...

Whoa.....I take bac. My comment about this match in the prior thread. Major egg on my face. Go JMP!!

Dapxin said...

this is becoming
slightly nerve-wrecking.
me alone ?

Craig Hickman said...

Beth, I'm hoping for some egg on my face.

Two more service holds. Sounds simple enough, no?

Dapxin said...

double fault federer. how random.
or so.

Dapxin said...

who
said
the monogram
is immuno-choke too?

Dapxin said...

what was that. rofl. federer?
comical

Michael said...

I have egg, too, from saying it could be a "decent" match. This is amazing stuff. Keep it coming!

Beth said...

Craig, this is WAY further than I expected DelPo to go after having seen their first set. Even if he loses, I am impressed. NEVER thought they would be in a 5th set. Never.

Dapxin said...

beth,
you still accomodate
the idea,
that delPo
can lose this?
I-LLU-SION!

Dapxin said...

I am
seeing un-federer errors!
Love it!

Dapxin said...

to
all fed-fans,
I admit:
your guy can play this thing!

Michael said...

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOOWWOW!!!! DEL PO DID IT IN 5.

Beth said...

Well done Del Po!!!!!

Craig Hickman said...

The egg yolk streaming down my face tastes SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good.

Helen W said...

Awesome performance by DelPo! Simply Awesome! And at 20 years old!

Dapxin said...

love it,
the feeling,
of sour,
that tastes,
frustratingly painful,
facing defeat,
the central nervous,
system,
struggling to keep,
pace with the
endless gush,
of reality - loss!

Yet!
there are two things,
that you must not do,
to win; lose concentration!

DelPotro walked the path,
the lonely walk,
only Nadal's walked
and comes unstung!

I salute! the US open champion,
J.M. Del Potro!

sykotique said...

Del Potro believed all along.


No guts, no glory; he hit that forehand like it was born to fly. Juan Martin Del Potro, you ARE the 2009 US Open Champion!!!

Roger, you win some (well, a lot actually), you lose some (well, very few). You did okay, champ.

Great match.

Pamela said...

Awesome!! I couldn't speak for a minute. Happy for Del Po. Just awesome ... love the guts and belief.

Karen said...

On a very dark day in my own personal life and as an ardent Roger Federer fan I could not be happier at this result. Earlier this season Juan Martin became one of my faves and I am so ecstatically happy for him. He earned this win. He put in the work behind the scenes and was not content with his loss to Roger at the French, he went out and worked hard and came back fitter than ever and more focused. Congratulations to him. Andy Murray who? No hype.

Mara said...

They almost didn't allow him to speak Spanish. Delpo had to ask twice!! Ridiculous!!!!!

Dapxin said...

Andy Murray who? No hype.
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gr8 post

Craig Hickman said...

Yes, sykotique, he believed all along.

He got nervous but he recovered each time and now he's a champion.

Impressive stuff.

edma1022 said...

Great win. Great effort. Great stuff.

This kid is a star. A well deserved result.

Vamos, DelPo!

Helen W said...

sykotique as a Federer fan, do you feel that he is somehow not playing 5th sets with the intensity that he has had in the past? I felt that in this tourney, and in the AO, that once it went to a 5th set, he seemed to get in a bad mood.

edma1022 said...

Karen: "Andy Murray who? No hype."

What she said. :-)

Michael said...

Del Potro and Federer were class-acts and tenacious competitors all the way through (OK, Del Po with a slight blip in the 1st and Fed with one in the 5th), even with the weird officiating moments of a fan calling a serve long and someone's cap or cup falling where Del Po asked for a let. Can't say the same about CBS and Enberg, with Del Potro having to ask twice to get a chance to say something on his own in Spanish, which was WAY more important and meaningful than yakking about the US Open Series and counting out his money in front of everyone and talking about his new car. I'd love to know what he said in Spanish. Seemed very heart-felt and wonderful.

Beverly said...

Wow! What a great day!!!! Del Potro held his nerve and proved me wrong too like I hoped but couldn't believe he would. Shame he folded at the French but he's learning. How awesome to finally see someone else besides Rafa stand up to Fed and take it all the way.

Dapxin said...

wo!
a bit of stat from the all-knowing-chaps-over-here-on-the-murrayMania-bbc!

no1 has ever beaten Nadal+Federer back to back.

Interesting!

Helen W said...

Dapxin, has anyone ever played Federer and Nadal back to back? They're usually on the opposite side of the draw ....

sykotique said...

HelenW,

Federer has never been the greatest 5 set player. The Australian Open against Nadal isn't the best example, I have come over time to expect him to lose close matches against Nadal as a matter of course, when he wins them, it's a bonus.

Look at the Wimbledon final. Roger had been below par for the entire match, Roddick had outplayed him, yet he found a way in the 5th set to raise his game on serve.

I thought, bar the first set, Federer's intensity was lacking throughout the match, not just in the fifth set. But even then, Roger has won matches like this in the past. The difference was that Del Potro didn't fold. His forehand was supposed to break down, guys aren't supposed to be able to hit that big, that consistently without making a few errors. I think DelPo's consistency won the match and capitalised on a situation that, prior to 2008, Federer would usually escape.

He's getting older. It's the circle of life.

Dapxin said...

Helen,
what do I know ?
I am the most casual tennis follower here :)

I just follow the ball :)

edma1022 said...

Dapxin, Djokovic achieved the feat in 2007 in Canada 2007, beating Rafa in the semis and Roger in the finals.

Now this one is more interesting - David Nalbandian, in Madrid 2007, went thru Del Potro, Djokovic, Nadal, and Federer to win that Masters shield that year !!!

Dapxin said...

oh well, I think I missed an important bit of the bbc guys stat:

....in a slam.

edma1022 said...

Dapxin, I stand corrected then. You're right, in a slam, yes.

Helen, for someone to beat Nadal and Fed back to back, AND win the title, they HAVE to be on opposite sides of the draw.

Just saying.

Helen W said...

Thanks for the analysis sykotique. The other day I watched the last part of the Federer-Nadal Rome 2006 match. To me he seemed a much better player then -- although I know that can't really be true. But it felt to me that he had something then -- some intensity -- that I haven't seen for awhile. (I admit I don't follow his play, but I do see some of his matches.)

It could be age :)

rabbit said...

Big congrats to Juan Martin! He is my second favorite player, by far. The way he carried himself throughout the tournament was awesome.

Not to take anything away from JMDP, but I really thought there was a lack of hunger today from Roger. Especially when he was up in the second set, instead of his usual professionalism and discipline in keeping himself focused, he tried to hit unnecessary trick shots, lost focus, I think. And JMDP took that opportunity to find his gear. Roger hadn't been playing well since the first and this became more and more evident.

Karen, hope you are ok in your personal life.

Helen W said...

edma I realize that, but the slam part came after my post. I only meant to point out that the chance to play them back to back would be relatively rare.

edma1022 said...

Actually, RF was lucky he reached 5 sets. JMDP was a gear or two lower than his performance in the semis. He was knocking off a few mph's on those serves, giving RF a ton of BPs. What helped Fed is his slice BH and dipping FH TS - which means usually tall guys needed to dig deeper to retrieve. The best thing that DelPo did is - he never doubted he can win. I think he knows that if he gives away too many, the guy across the net will take it. His ROS FH's were a thing of beauty.

BayouPeach said...

Sorry I missed this whole conversation, but I was on the edge of my seat this entire match!!

WOW!!! DEL PO WINS!! That's freakin' awesome. I said after the way he dismantled my man Nadal, Federer shouldn't expect a cake walk.

I'm crushing on Juan right about.....now ;-)

Christopher Crocker said...

As a big Federer fan, I can't say that I'm not disappointed. On the other hand it is really refreshing to see someone new lifting a GS trophy. Well done Juan Martin! He really did fight for it. Whatever I, or anyone else might say regarding Federer's wavering intensity, Del Potro overcame no small mountain in taking his first GS title, in his first GS final match, when everyone and their dog had all but gifted it to Federer.

Mad Professah said...

The King is Dead. Long Live the King!

I picked a 5-setter, b*tches!

Helen W said...

Christopher what impressed me about DelPo even more than the improvement in his game is the improvement in his consistency and mental fortitude. I think the latter is even harder to build. Drills to build specific skills are manifold; but how do you build psychological skills?

Christopher Crocker said...

Yes Helen, yes. That's the factor that most people don't comprehend in climbing. The physical really is the smaller accomplishment.

PeytonAllen said...

Didn't see the match from after the second set, was in class, but am watching it now on TTC.

Finally someone took Fed out when he was there for the taking. That's two slam finals in a row Roger hasn't brought is A game.

Congrats to DelPo! The second man to beat Fed in a Slam final. The tour needed it.

I think the Top five will continue to get better, now Del Po will force them too, but Fed will return. Until he starts losing before Semis, or hell in the Semis of slams, he's gonna keep winning.

A good day for the ATP and believe it or not Federer. Let's see if he's motivated by this. After Nadal delivered another mental blow, he was talking in the spring after losses to Murray like, "he's young, I'm old," but the draw parted at the French, Andy let him off the hook in London and all of the sudden around Cincy he was moving like a deer again and feeling uber confident.

I still say 18-20 slams but a new challenge has presented itself, and really isn't that what most of us here have wanted Fed to have since, well, about 2003.

Beverly said...

Roger might have raised his game in the fifth set against Andy at Wimbledon but his luck at serving first in the no-tiebreak final set was the decisive factor. Roddick was amazing with how long he held it together but it was inevitable that any human would crack just the tiniest bit in that situation and that gave Roger the match. Roddick winning would have been a more just outcome.

Delpo beating both Nadal and Federer back to back would be impressive if Nadal was not as injured as he was. I'm very much looking forward to see how well the new Delpo can do against a healthy Rafa. Rafa has beaten him each time they played when he was healthy so we will have to wait to see.

Helen W said...

Beverley I agree with you that if Rafa had not had his abdominal injury, his match with DelPo would have been much more competitive.

That being said, DelPo is surely the most improved player of the year at this point. Before his win yesterday, he was 0 - 6 against Federer as well.