Friday, October 30, 2009

Quote For The Day

"Shocking. Not as much shock that he did it as shock he lied about it and didn't own up to it. He's up there with Roger Clemens, as far as I'm concerned. He owned up to it (in the book), but it doesn't help now."--Martina Navratilova on Andre Agassi's published confession.

10 comments:

meonpc said...

Sorry Martina, I disagree. Andre was not taking performance-enhancing drugs. If anything, the drugs that entered his body did anything but help his performance. And as far as I know, crystal-meth was not on the banned list, although no one believes these or any "recreational" drugs should be acceptable. Andre's drug use should not detract from his record as a tennis champion and more importantly, from his history as one of the best and nicest people the tennis world has had the privilege of knowing.

Helen W said...

There is no agreement on whether Crystal Meth is or is not performance-enhancing. My observations so far tell me that the people that so claim invariable feel we should not condemn Agassi's taking illegal drugs.

But Martina is deploring Agassi's lying -- for YEARS. Is that OK with you too?

Karen said...

Does anyone now really believe that the drug for which Agassi lied was actally crystal meth? For all we know it could have been something else. I am not so aghast at the fact that he took the drug crystal meth, what I am upset about and I think a lot of tennis professionals are upset about is the fact that he was given a pass by the sport's governing body because of who he is and because he lied. When Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal are in agreement as to how damaging this is for the sport, then you need to sit up and take notice. What Agassi has done is now shine a spotlight on players who are clean and players who are not clean. For evermore there will be questions as to who is clean and who is not. Players will no longer want to take a 2 or 3 month break or even 18 month break to recuperate etc because of the stigma which will be attached to them. Already questions are arising as to whether Justine is coming back from a suspension or whether it was really a "retirement". Serena for years has had people questioning her muscular frame and saying that it is doping. Even now Nadal's recent bouts with injury have fans stating that it as a result of steroid use why he is so frequently injured. Now everyone and their mother is going to be pointing fingers at every single player on both Tours. He lied and got away with it. Why come and destroy the sport that made you what you are, even though you hated it. Clearly, he still hates tennis. I wish he would just crawl back under the rock from whence he came. He has absolutely destroyed tennis. Recently, the players have even been going to extreme measures where testing is concerned and I recall on this very message board arguments raised for and against players having to tell doping authorities where they were at any given point in time. Clearly, there was a need for this.

tangerine said...

Am I the only one who's yawning over this story? Andre did drugs. No? Really? I'm shocked. And the ATP covered it up because he's such a big star? I am speechless. Come on now. If Roger or Rafa were caught doping they'd get the old sweep-it-under-the-rug treatment too. And drug testing is supposedly more stringent today. For the record, crystal meth is not a performance enhancing drug.

As for Martina, she's a blowhard. Has she given up her US citizenship like she said she would?

meonpc said...

Oh my goodness! I can't believe what an enormous deal everyone is making about this revelation. It's ancient history. It affects no one and nothing today. It is irrelevant, and such a teensy-weensy part of one man's life story. Why are people choosing to focus on this part? Time to move on.

meonpc said...

One last thing -- as usual, Andy Roddick is wise and sees it all clearly, when he says: "andre is and always will be my idol. i will judge him on how he's treated me, and how he has changed the world for better." His [Roddick's] peers need to come down off their high (judgmental) horses.

Oh, and here my real last thought, in response to Helen W: No, lying is not okay, but we all do it, don't we? We're not proud. It's usually a matter of self-preservation and certainly was for Andre in this case. He is wiser for it today. Give him a break.

Karen said...

I think people are missing the whole point here. It is not the drug per se which has everyone up in arms. It is the damage that has been done to the sport. Already people are now stating that if certain big stars test positive then the powers that be will sweep it under the carpet. He has tainted everyone in the sport with this. I hope he is happy.

Helen W said...

meonpc says:

His [Roddick's] peers need to come down off their high (judgmental) horses.

Of course. Anyone who doesn't give Agassi a pass for doing illegal drugs, and when caught by the ATP lying and throwing his "friend" under a bus is judgmental.

lying is not okay, but we all do it, don't we? We're not proud. It's usually a matter of self-preservation and certainly was for Andre in this case.

I dunno. Do you lie whenever you need to for self preservation? Is that really the reason people lie? And would Andre have died if he didn't lie? Or would he just have lost stature and money? Or is that the same thing, in your view?

Helen W said...

meonpc says:

Oh my goodness! I can't believe what an enormous deal everyone is making about this revelation. It's ancient history. It affects no one and nothing today. It is irrelevant, and such a teensy-weensy part of one man's life story. Why are people choosing to focus on this part? Time to move on.

Ancient history? 1997? Tell me, how far in the past can we talk about events? 2001? And if you are complaining about people talking about this "ancient" event, then why don't you be consistent and complain about Agassi revealing this ancient event? After all, isn't it time to "move on"?

Oh and BTW. The kid that grew up idolizing Agassi, and now learns that his idol is made of lead rather than gold -- is he affected?

And is it just possible that the reason people are focusing on this ancient event is because it has just been revealed to them? Just a guess.

Dapxin said...

Until the break
of that supermachine:
Usain Bolt,
in Athletics,
the sport had almost
reached a crescendo,
where most ardent
followers basiclly
got
ambivalent.

You didnt know.

As jaw-dropping,
as Usain Bolt,
gets with his sprint,
even me,
still dread,
the future.

It was so with Marion Jones.
How many people adored her?
for her beauty?
let alone her pace?
And those gold medals?
who cares now?

The thing is,
with stuff like this,
you do incalculable damage,
even to unborn generations.

And it all disgusts,
when it was pointedly
about marketing a book,
rather than,
a true escape,
from reflection,
perhaps conscience,
wth the altruistic desire,
to be square with his followers.

You couldn't make it up,
except in our upside-down-ed world